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- Scheduled to end: 11:35, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
Per Commons:Interface administrators, a request should be made here for users who seek interface admin rights even if they are non-admins.
There is a backlog at Category:Commons protected edit requests for interface administrators for weeks. Some requests are rather simple to deal with.
Accordingly, I propose to do them. I'm not interested in adminship in general. I'm currently a template editor and have edited countless templates.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 11:35, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Votes
[edit]Oppose --A.Savin 15:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Oppose per above and this unresolved discussion. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 16:05, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Feel free to reopen it, if you think it needs addressing.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 16:12, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Feel free to reopen it, if you think it needs addressing.
Oppose See discussion below. Yann (talk) 16:37, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nope. — regards, Revi 17:11, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Oppose I'm afraid I'm seeing the same behavior and approach from you as Günther Frager. Iwaqarhashmi (talk) 17:31, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Oppose Multichill (talk) 17:42, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Oppose per the ANU, and no, I still don't care about the userpage (and I am still biased). Queen of Hearts (talk) 18:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Oppose Ternera (talk) 19:22, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Oppose. It is exceptionally rare for a user to be granted interface administrator rights without already being having administrator or greater rights - to the best of my knowledge, Lucas Werkmeister is currently the only exception - and I don't see a compelling explanation of why you should be the second. Omphalographer (talk) 20:55, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Note that there have (AFAIK) been three non-admin IAs other than Werkmeister – FDMS4 passed in 2019 (went inactive 2 years later), Dschwen passed in 2021 (was full admin from 2007 to 2019; went inactive a year later), and Putnik (was full admin from 2007 to 2022, where he resigned admin but not IA; went inactive a year later). I believe that interface edit requests are quite backlogged and we should take anyone who is competent with technical stuff and doesn't have other issues even if they aren't an admin, but that's neither here nor there. Queen of Hearts (talk) 04:37, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Oppose thanks, but no Bedivere (talk) 22:55, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Oppose per whatever has been said (logically). I would gladly support if there are better communications skills. Tech-knowledge itself is not sufficient. Regards, Aafi (talk) 13:12, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Oppose --Ameisenigel (talk) 16:51, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Oppose Günther failed becuase of his inability to accept community consensus on a very trivial matter, but this time, its just the icing on the cake. The ANU thread is concerning at best, the retaliatory DR is grounds for a 3 day block (as civility issue) by any uninvolved admin, and on top of all that, IA has the ability to edit pages that have global effects . IA is not a hat we give on a whim. All the Best -- Chuck Talk 01:18, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Oppose I agree with Aafi, tech knowledge by the candidate is not enough by itself, candidate doesn't appear have the temperament to be an admin. I will say that I don't believe the DR discussed was retaliatory. Abzeronow (talk) 18:10, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Oppose Bastique ☎ let's talk! 01:25, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
Oppose I have no skin in this game but have read through these comments and past discussion. I can't see a reason to support. Takerlamar (talk) 21:24, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
Oppose Sad to say that I cannot support a candidate with glaring existing issues. Jianhui67 T★C 11:13, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- I wonder why you haven't created a userpage yet. Please at least add a babel box to your talk page so we can know what languages you speak. Iwaqarhashmi (talk) 13:49, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- I can add whatever notice is needed on my talk page, similar to the approach by @Günther Frager. If not in English, I would try to handle requests in languages of the interface I'd be editing.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 16:11, 25 November 2024 (UTC)- Well, you didn't reply to my concern about your userpage, and I just don't understand why it's so hard to create it. Iwaqarhashmi (talk) 17:15, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- It appears for you to be somewhat relevant to editing the interface. Maybe you can explain how so and I will try to address your concerns.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 17:24, 25 November 2024 (UTC)- By the way there is no such "Gunther Frager approach". Once he lost his candidacy he removed the Babel labels. Bedivere (talk) 22:56, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- It's weird that some users trouble candidates like Gunther with irrelevant issues in such requests. Wonder if it's systematic or just incidental.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 07:40, 26 November 2024 (UTC)- It's not irrelevant. Frager deliberately ignored our request giving poor excuses, which ultimately was the reason of our opposition. If you think disregarding consensus is irrelevant, makes me think Bedivere (talk) 20:32, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- It's unclear what consensus you refer to. If the issues users are being hassled with are irrelevant, ignoring is may be a good approach. Clearly nobody had troubles finding a language to communicate with Gunter.
- Obviously, if the issue implies spreading false information, actions eventually need to be taken. We can't have admin doing that repeatedly and apparently knowingly. Admins consistently ignoring discussed, agreed-upon and written policy is a no go.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 22:26, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- It's not irrelevant. Frager deliberately ignored our request giving poor excuses, which ultimately was the reason of our opposition. If you think disregarding consensus is irrelevant, makes me think Bedivere (talk) 20:32, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- It's weird that some users trouble candidates like Gunther with irrelevant issues in such requests. Wonder if it's systematic or just incidental.
- By the way there is no such "Gunther Frager approach". Once he lost his candidacy he removed the Babel labels. Bedivere (talk) 22:56, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- It appears for you to be somewhat relevant to editing the interface. Maybe you can explain how so and I will try to address your concerns.
- Well, you didn't reply to my concern about your userpage, and I just don't understand why it's so hard to create it. Iwaqarhashmi (talk) 17:15, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- I can add whatever notice is needed on my talk page, similar to the approach by @Günther Frager. If not in English, I would try to handle requests in languages of the interface I'd be editing.
Question Why aren't you interested in adminship? Since you want to help with the backlog at this specific category, why didn't you apply for adminship first in order to help with other backlogs like deletion requests and then work your way up? Iwaqarhashmi (talk) 14:03, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Admins can't actually deal with these matters, they need to apply for that too. Besides, from editing to fix templates, it's rather a way down, at least technically.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 16:06, 25 November 2024 (UTC)- I do know that and what I asked was why you didn't think it'd be better to apply for adminship first and help admins with the backlogs for a while and then ask for these advanced permissions to also help with the edit requests for interface administrators. Iwaqarhashmi (talk) 17:15, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm trying to solve an issue I'm interested in. Solving some other issue wont get these done.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 17:26, 25 November 2024 (UTC)- You could make your requests if that's the purpose Bedivere (talk) 22:54, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Can you explain the meaning and relevancy of your comment, if there is any?
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 07:38, 26 November 2024 (UTC)- "I'm trying to solve an issue I'm interested in". You can make your request and have somebody else solve it. Bedivere (talk) 20:33, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- The proposal is made here. Are you suggesting I should just add requests on project chat and or admin noticeboard and ping interface admins?
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 22:28, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- The proposal is made here. Are you suggesting I should just add requests on project chat and or admin noticeboard and ping interface admins?
- "I'm trying to solve an issue I'm interested in". You can make your request and have somebody else solve it. Bedivere (talk) 20:33, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Can you explain the meaning and relevancy of your comment, if there is any?
- You could make your requests if that's the purpose Bedivere (talk) 22:54, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm trying to solve an issue I'm interested in. Solving some other issue wont get these done.
- I do know that and what I asked was why you didn't think it'd be better to apply for adminship first and help admins with the backlogs for a while and then ask for these advanced permissions to also help with the edit requests for interface administrators. Iwaqarhashmi (talk) 17:15, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Admins can't actually deal with these matters, they need to apply for that too. Besides, from editing to fix templates, it's rather a way down, at least technically.
- I'm inclined to oppose because there is no user page, but I'll give it a few days... No other concerns at the moment. Bedivere (talk) 14:48, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Same here, but I'm waiting for their reply to see what they have to say. It's really unfortunate they don't have a user page just like the previous user whose request was unsuccessful for the very same reason. Iwaqarhashmi (talk) 15:36, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Comment You should at the very least mention this, where several users agreed that you need a block. What did you learn about this? Yann (talk) 15:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- The matter was discussed a bit further at Commons:Village_pump/Proposals#c-Clindberg-20241027012000-Giftzwerg_88-20241026204400 and @Clindberg seems to disagree about your view on current written policy. Maybe you want to participate in the discussion there.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 16:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)- We are not discussing policies here. Yann (talk) 16:37, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- It appears that your view, actions and conduct in that matter is not compatible with what Clindberg considers Commons' discussed, agreed-upon and written policy.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 16:43, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- It appears that your view, actions and conduct in that matter is not compatible with what Clindberg considers Commons' discussed, agreed-upon and written policy.
- We are not discussing policies here. Yann (talk) 16:37, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Now created a retaliation deletion request. Yann (talk) 08:32, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- That's a real shame. Iwaqarhashmi (talk) 08:43, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- From my experience, I can't trust Yann to address or correct false information.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 22:30, 26 November 2024 (UTC)- If you can't trust an experienced and trustworthy admin, then the community won't trust you with the IA rights either. Iwaqarhashmi (talk) 07:58, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- From my experience, I can't trust Yann to address or correct false information.
- That's a real shame. Iwaqarhashmi (talk) 08:43, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- The matter was discussed a bit further at Commons:Village_pump/Proposals#c-Clindberg-20241027012000-Giftzwerg_88-20241026204400 and @Clindberg seems to disagree about your view on current written policy. Maybe you want to participate in the discussion there.