Commons:Administrators/Requests/Dschwen (interface administrator)
Support = 32;
Oppose = 5;
Neutral = 2 – 88%. Result: successful.
Dschwen (interface administrator)
Dschwen (talk · contributions (views) · deleted user contributions · recent activity (talk · project · deletion requests) · logs · block log · global contribs · CentralAuth)
- Scheduled to end: 23:29, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
Hey everyone, I'm Dschwen, former admin (became admin in 2007 and lost the bit due to inactivity end of 2019) and crat (became crat in 2012 and lost that bit in ... actually I cannot find a paper trail, but I'm sure it was warranted due to inactivity). Due to real life obligations (kids, family, board positions) I was pretty much inactive on commons for a while, only occasionally dropping in to fix some of my stuff that broke over time. I'd like to spend more time on commons tending to my bots and tools (like the Good Pictures Button) and am primarily interested in interface adminship. I think I have a pretty clean record from my time back then and would like to consider myself trustworthy :-) Dschwen (talk) 23:29, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Votes
Support Of course. :D --pandakekok9 03:17, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
- I'd like to note that I also support him for regular admin if that's possible. But if the community and Dschwen only want interface admin, I'm fine with that. pandakekok9 13:08, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Support. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 03:23, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Support --Mirer (talk) 05:30, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Support --FriedrickMILBarbarossa (talk) 06:38, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Support Welcome back! Pi.1415926535 (talk) 07:12, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Support--Ymblanter (talk) 07:53, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Oppose Still inactive, see contribs. Not even sure if this nomination is serious --A.Savin 08:36, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
- I'm striking this, as the nomination has now been changed to interface adminship only. --A.Savin 19:37, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Oppose Please get active again before requesting rights, in a few months I would support this --Ameisenigel (talk) 10:33, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Oppose per A.Savin - a handful of recent contributions is not enough. Become more active and we can re-consider Gbawden (talk) 12:06, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Support i'll take his/her word for the pledged active commitment to the project.--RZuo (talk) 12:15, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Neutral I recommend withdrawing this nomination and applying immediately again for interface adminship only, if you're specifically interested in that. 4nn1l2 (talk) 12:54, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Support Trusted long-time member of the community; there's literally no reason to doubt his words. Welcome back! --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 13:40, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Support Jean-Fred (talk) 16:58, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Oppose If I were you, I'd get activity first before coming here asking for the bit back, let alone asking for interface-admin. Your last major activity was back in 2017, four years ago. 1989 (talk) 17:02, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Support this trusted user need interfaceadmin rights, I see no good reason to deprive us of his welcome contributions. Christian Ferrer (talk) 17:05, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Support There's been no indication this person will abuse the tools. To the contrary, the most serious charge against them is inactivity after contributing vital tools to the project. My request to Dschwen would be to please do as much as you can to prepare and document contingencies for your tools should you become inactive again. The downside of contributing valuable tools is that the rest of us have become extremely reliant on you to maintain them. — Rhododendrites talk | 17:25, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, yeah, I agree. I did suggest to add co-maintainers and offered to walk interested parties through the code and cloud VM setups. --Dschwen (talk) 21:24, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Support per Rhododendrites. I understand the concerns about inactivity but that is not sufficient for me to oppose this RfA. Regards. T CellsTalk 18:16, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Oppose per A.Savin. --Rzuwig► 19:06, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Support. --Túrelio (talk) 20:43, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Support even if they aren't the most active, they can still be trusted with the tools... LGTM --DannyS712 (talk) 21:51, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Support. --Nehaoua (talk) 01:13, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Support. If poorly designed rules require to be an admin for to become an interfaceadmin a lack of activity is a weak argument. --Achim (talk) 09:39, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Support --Palauenc05 (talk) 12:38, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Neutral per 4nn1l2. --Minoraxtalk 12:51, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Support Jianhui67 T★C 16:36, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Support Trusted user. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:29, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Support You did not say enough clearly, that you are applying only for interface adminship. A lot of users, including myself, took this as a request for full adminship, and you have really low activity. I agree to give you interface adminship rights, but not full adminship rights. Taivo (talk) 09:16, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
- The rules state "The same criteria as for normal admin requests apply." Either way, I neither need nor want regular admin rights at this point. --Dschwen (talk) 16:08, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Support. "interface admin rights" are definitely ok to me. -- Geagea (talk) 12:32, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Support - no question --Herby talk thyme 18:20, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Support trusted without a doubt. Multichill (talk) 19:08, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Support Experienced user. --Mosbatho (talk) 21:39, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Support Trusted & experienced user. --AFBorchert (talk) 22:45, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Support —DerHexer (Talk) 07:35, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Support Welcome back. --Schlurcher (talk) 08:25, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Oppose Nothing personal and I've definitely had good interactions with you - but I'm afraid that the rights will mostly go unused since you've been mostly inactive over the last few years. Would reconsider with more sustained activity. --Rschen7754 08:24, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Support Nice to hear from you again. --Jarekt (talk) 19:38, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Support -- MaxxL - talk 12:53, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Support Trusted user, nothing wrong with this request. If the rights are not used we can later on take them back, but if Daniel intends to get active I assume that it's the case. Poco a poco (talk) 13:32, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
Support --Zache (talk) 15:50, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
Support -- very trusted User. -- Marcus Cyron (talk) 01:06, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Comments
Comment The paper trail started at Commons:Administrators/Inactivity section/Aug-Sep 2019 and continued at m:Steward requests/Permissions/2019-09#Dschwen@commonswiki, this log for Admin and Crat, and this other log for Interface Admin and GWToolset user. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 04:08, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Comment I've highlighted above that I'm applying for interface admin rights. --Dschwen (talk) 00:38, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- I'm concerned about the comments with a tone of "oh, it's only interface adminship". IA is more dangerous than adminship from a security perspective (which is why I'm generally opposed to non-admin IAs). @Dschwen: can you confirm that you have two-factor authentication enabled already or will do so if granted access (as required by the WMF)? Please also summarize the other steps you have taken to keep your account secure. --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 03:56, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- @AntiCompositeNumber: As an interface-admin on Meta, I hope the candidate is already using 2FA. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 04:19, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Jeff G.: They must be having 2FA enabled, as WMF requires int-admins to have 2FA enabled at all times, failing which their access needs to be removed till they re-enabled. (i.e. 2FA isn't a good to have, is a must) The only people that can check is either T&S / Stewards though. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:02, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Jeff G.: the candidate indeed has 2FA enabled :-) --Dschwen (talk) 15:28, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Dschwen: Thanks, I was trying to stay professional. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 17:51, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- @AntiCompositeNumber: There seems to be some disagreement on wiki whether the bar for IA should be higher or lower (or the same as regular Admin). Interface_administrators states "The same criteria as for normal admin requests apply." - which is why I didn't originally start this request with the distinction of only needing IA. On Commons:Bureaucrats'_noticeboard#User:Dschwen_requests_interfaceadmin_rights I was advised I should have explicitly made this an IA only request (which is when I highlighted that on this page). Later comments agree with ACN. I would also tend to agree that the ability to edit client side scripts that automatically get executed on tens of thousands of machines every day, hour, minute(?) has the potential of being far more disruptive than the abuse of admin tools. For one, the scripts would run with Admin privileges on every admin account, so IA implies the possibility to directly command every single active admin account. So, yeah, full agreement from me in that regard. Chose your IAs wisely! I would argue though that this doesn't mean people with more upload, categorization, or cleanup activity are more qualified. I'd say people with tool building experience are what you would want. --Dschwen (talk) 15:38, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- Full disclosure here, I do have experience with the potentially harmful effects of editing on-wiki scripts. The WikiMiniAtlas client script lies on meta (where I am IA). A few (maybe 6 or 7) years ago I added a feature that issues an HTTP request to the (back then) "toolserver". Shortly after my script change I noticed the toolserver was offline and I was unable to log in. This was frustrating as I was in the middle of expanding said feature. I quickly realized that my script change had caused an accidental denial of service attack on the toolserver and immediately reverted my mistake. I guess everyone makes mistakes sometimes, but that's one I'm definitely not intending to repeat. --Dschwen (talk) 15:46, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- One more (since it is apparently story time). This one is not directly related to IA privileges, but tangentially. In the early days of WikiMiniAtlas when I introduced the satellite layer I thought it might be a good idea to just directly have the client request tiles from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory's map server. Their map server would re-project the satellite imagery to the correct coordinate system, and would produce tiles of the correct size. Very little work for me! Unfortunately after a few days this "solution" stopped working. So I found the contact person responsible for that server at NASA and shot him an email. He was very courteous and kindly let me know that their server melted, suffering from what looked like a distributed denial of service attack, and he had to block all publick access to that API... Anyhoo, we sorted things out, I changed my code to request unprojected raw satellite data, cache it on the toolserver, and do the projection myself (again caching the results), dialing back the load on the NASA server to practically zero. Hold these stories against me if you will :-), but rest assured that I learned from both incidents! --Dschwen (talk) 15:53, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- @AntiCompositeNumber: I just realized I haven't given you a summary of my account security measures. I'm frankly a bit at a loss here. I have a strong unique password for my global account that is not shared with any other service online. I have 2FA. I don't log in in public places or computers I do not control (well.. what computer do you really control these days...). I practice basic computer hygene (I use up to date Linux and mac systems do not install random crap that might end up stealing my password etc.) I'm picky when authorizing account access via oauth and remove access when I'm done using a service (like the geo location tool on commons). --Dschwen (talk) 23:37, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- @AntiCompositeNumber: As an interface-admin on Meta, I hope the candidate is already using 2FA. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 04:19, 14 January 2021 (UTC)